Q: We used to have a guaranteed catch whenever Unya woke up in the morning or after a long nap, but now she is almost 9 months old and separation anxiety is in full swing. For the past few weeks she often gets upset if we try to put her down on the potty, and then she pees on the floor as soon as one of us picks her up. We’ve tried holding her over the sink so that she’s not separated, but that doesn’t seem to work much better. Any ideas on how to get the morning pee in the potty or the sink instead of on the floor (or on mommy or daddy)? ~Jeremy, Thailand
A: Hey Jeremy! Thanks for asking this question. I can, unfortunately, totally relate to this phenomenon.
Luckily, there are some things you can do to get through this without negatively affecting your EC practice. Here we go….
Continue in-arms where it does work
I say this tentatively because I want to stress that this is not a permanent fix…but the first thing you’ll want to try is to continue using the in-arms hold in locations where it still works.
For my first baby, I pottied him outside (thankfully, in summertime), in-arms, for several weeks during his major separation anxiety period. I’ve also worked with several parents who’ve done the same, as a temporary fix, and it’s worked wonders.
There are many reasons why this probably works as a temp fix. First off, a baby in an intact culture/indigenous tribe would already be potty independent at 9 months old. That is, he would be crawling off to the ole pottying pit, outdoors, and doing his business solo. No pants in the way, maybe a loin cloth or long t-shirt (if that).
Secondly, the great outdoors is the prime distraction for babies. You all know what I mean by this. Mother Nature is always a great “auntie” to turn to when your baby is fussy and there seems like no consolation is possible. The warm sun, soft breeze, animals and plants…they definitely cause relaxation.
However, remembering that this is temporary, realize this pottying choice will have to shift. I think that when the time comes, you’ll know (for example, you’ll say to your wife “If I have to pee him outside one more time, I think I’ll go nuts.”).
Then, transition from outdoors to indoors with confidence (see my future post for more on how to transition to the potty).
Hug/hold her onto it (and, beginning discipline)
Many a parent have found that, with this newfound ability to resist things in her life, the opportunity for disciplining a child has begun.
What?! you say. Discipline a 9 month old?!
Yes, I know it may sound strange, but in cultures all over the world, including our own Western ones, many families begin disciplining (ie: teaching) their babies at an early age, and it pays off.
So, with regards to pottying, you can reassure your baby “I’m right here” and hold her on the potty with a hug (if she’s cuddly) or a hand (see below). She may not like it at first, but many babies will eventually relax (which is the goal here) and will release their pee.
Here’s an example of what you might do (from an anonymous parent):
So my 6-mo has decided that he doesn’t really need to sit when he goes potty…. He doesn’t want to pee standing up or anything, he has just become very clingy all of a sudden and wants to hold on to me rather than sit to pee. So I ask him to please sit, telling him the potty is for sitting and placing my hand against his pelvis to encourage him. After a minute of not-really-unhappy resistance on his part, he’ll usually sit and pee. And if he does have to pee, he’ll sit just in time, almost every time (so far), and seem relieved and not stressed anymore.
If he continues to resist, I take him off, though, and figure that I misread his signals. Occasionally he will pee after he’s off the potty, but not often. He holds on to me for dear life, as if I’m going to leave him, but I have never left him on the potty — I always hold him, at least his hand. He only does this with pottying.
I think I need a potty cozy for the living room potty. I’ve had one on the BR one b/c we use that for early morning times when he’s all warm and sleepy, but I haven’t put one on any of the other potties b/c they’ve never bothered him until now, since it’s been warm. But when I picked him up from it just now, his bottom felt colder than his back. The house is definitely cooler than it was a few days ago.
I thought it might help folks to kind of see my thought process in this problem, to see how I try to figure out what’s going on. Once I get the cozy made, I’ll let you all know whether I’m right in my diagnosis.
Note: If your baby simply doesn’t have to go (you’ve misguessed), then never force her to stay on the potty. I’m suggesting a gentle, physical encouragement to demonstrate your expectations.
Just remember – it’s totally okay to teach “we sit on the potty when we need to pee.” In fact, it’s your job.
You might need a potty cozy
Like the woman above described, she figured the potty seat might be too cold for her son, and that this was making him cling to her.
If you don’t already have one, I suggest trying this as an easy fix for a baby who just won’t relax/is clingy/won’t sit/won’t be held. Here’s more about potty cozies and how to make your own.
This is the direct opposite of my recommendation, above, to use a hand to encourage sitting separately.
This bit of advice will involve complete "hands-off" while on the toilet.
When you go into the bathroom, be matter-of-fact (keep reading below for more on that) and place your child on the potty, turning your back and busying yourself with something "important" in the bathroom. Take a few steps away when you're doing this and "ignore" your child in order to provide him/her with privacy.
Only do this if your child can safely sit upright, unassisted, on a toilet seat reducer on the big potty.
If you're using a mini potty on the ground, and your child can easily mount it solo, go into the bathroom together, remove baby's bottoms, tell him/her to "put your pee in the potty," and then busy yourself with something very important (like picking at something, looking closely in the mirror at something on your face or teeth, anything to direct your attention off of your LO and onto something else in the room). Be sure the door is locked and just stay in there until your child figures it out or goes near the potty, worst-case.
Be more matter-of-fact about pottying
Talk less. Sign less.
Do it and move on.
Kinda like changing your baby’s clothes.
Take charge, even.
Have a “diffuse awareness” around pottying (in other words, without embellishment, hyper-focus, or any sign of fear, even if you’re feeling it). Don’t make it the focus of your day.
You’ve got the tools. Use them.
And move on back to what you were just doing! (Which was way more fun that pottying, right?)
Spread out your pottytunities more – offer them less!
Your baby is now 9 months old. She no longer pees or poos at the frequency she did when she was a newborn (if she does suddenly return to that frequency at some point, you might want to look into that).
So, you should consciously reduce the number of pottytunities you offer throughout the day.
Some of the separation anxiety could be stemming from her growing desire for independence, and you, at the same time.
So laying off and reducing the number of opportunities would have a positive effect in this case.
She’s not a newborn anymore
Don’t react to a 9 month old like you do a newborn…in all aspects of parenting.
You don’t have to be the immediate-responder all the time, always on high-alert.
While she’s having her separation anxiety about pottying, and you’re getting creative on how to get her to sit or be held, remember that she’s tougher than she used to be.
“You’re okay. Do this with me and we can move on.” With confidence and reassurance, at the level of a 9 month old, not a newborn.
Thanks for your question Jeremy!
Now I'd like to hear from everyone else. This is totally a hot topic with us ECers...and this is a 100% judgment-free zone.
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Looking forward to hearing from all of you! xx Andrea
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